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∂28-Mar-82  1000	Alan Kotok <KOTOK at DEC-MARLBORO> 	Your recent note on system configurations   
Date: 28 Mar 1982 1249-EST
From: Alan Kotok <KOTOK at DEC-MARLBORO>
To: lcs at SU-AI
cc: reg at SU-AI, kotok at KL1031
Reply-to: Kotok at KL1031
DTN: 231-7381
Mail-stop: MR1-2/E47
Subject: Your recent note on system configurations
Message-ID: <"MS10(2055)+GLXLIB1(1056)" 11811354719.19.245.7182 at DEC-MARLBORO>

Thanks for the note.  As far as I know, DEC has only a few ways of
giving away equipment.  Let me discuss them:

1) General grants of particular equipment to certain classes of
   recipients.  As far as I know, the rumoured upcoming gift of
   GIGIs meets this model.  If you are in the recipient class,
   like "Universities", then it's first come, first served,
   providing you have some vaguely plausible use.

2) External Research grants.  This program offers equipment to
   researchers in fields of direct interest to DEC.  It requires
   a formal liason mechanism to set goals and track work.  I
   expect difficulty justifying music typography under this program,
   but I will check into it further.

3) Outright gifts.  This mechanism tends to be used for aging
   equipment which is no longer useful to DEC.  It generally
   requires the DEC "owner" of the equipment to convince the
   corporate gifts committee why it ought to be given away, and
   to whom.  I unfortunately have no equipment in this category.

As you can well imagine, it's hard to get support for "arts-related"
donations out of DEC.  As to what to do now, I have one suggestion.
Since path (2) has the best chance of getting somewhere, could you
write a one page proposal on what you would do with whatever equipment
we gave you?  Something which emphasized advancing the state of the
art in your field, and especially if more people would buy DEC computers
as a result.  I suggest you talk with Ralph, and have him talk to me.
I'm sending this note to him, too.

In them mean time, keep your ear close to the ground for the type (1)
giveaway.
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∂20-Mar-82  2256	HYS  	Hawaiian Wedding Song   
Boy, that "Hawaiian Wedding Song" I saw in the recycling bin is one of the
worst pieces of drivel I've seen in a while.  With pieces like that, no
wonder harpists get such a lousy reputation.  You should put your program
to better uses (e.g. the complete works of Shen or somesuch...)

Sometime in the next few days I'll drop Gayle a note informing her about
my grade of "*" (I really did want to give a NC; I still feel as if I've
been had), as well as everything she needs to do if and when she wants to
clear it (five composition assignments).  I'll leave a copy of the take-home
final in her folder, and will leave a copy of my note to Gayle for you as
well as for her folder.  For your information, the final should be completed
in six days' time.

Quite frankly, I am still not at all happy about the way the dept. has
handled this affair.  It seems that in every other school of Stanford's
calibre, there would be no question of even thinking about her trying to
finish her work in abstentia.  Now I don't like giving anyone the axe,
but I like even less the idea that someone will have walked away with a
music degree from a place like Stanford and not know a bloody thing about
music theory and literature.  Yesterday, I cleared Marty Noss' 103B
grade to allow her to graduate on time, but my conscience still bothers me
that she is still unable to harmonize simple basses and melodies in four
parts without making fundamental errors, and still has not the foggiest
notion about altered chords.  Well, I suppose it won't be at Stanford
where I'm going try to make reforms.

So far on the job scene, got on the finals list for Dartmouth and the
semi-finals for U. of Nebraska/Omaha.  Pretty dreary.

∂14-Mar-82  1952	BRG  
justify seems to work fine now...thanks

∂12-Mar-82  1206	Alan Kotok <KOTOK at DEC-MARLBORO> 	GIGI for you  
Date: 12 Mar 1982 1500-EST
From: Alan Kotok <KOTOK at DEC-MARLBORO>
To: lcs at SU-AI
Reply-to: Kotok at KL1031
DTN: 231-7381
Mail-stop: MR1-2/E47
Subject: GIGI for you
Message-ID: <"MS5(2052)+GLXLIB1(1056)" 11807184286.41.245.8563 at DEC-MARLBORO>

I have talked to my sources here, and they say that in about four
weeks we will announce a program to give away a bunch of equipment,
including GIGIs, to Universities.  The mechanism is that you request
this equipment from your DEC salesman (who probably hasn't heard of this
yet.)  When you make contact, let me know who you talk to, and
I will send him or her a note supporting your case.

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∂26-Feb-82  0903	WIENEKE at SRI-KL 	return mail
Date: 26 Feb 1982 0902-PST
From: WIENEKE at SRI-KL
Subject: return mail
To: lcs at SU-AI

Could you send your response to ig-pw@ecl as well as to wieneke@kl?
Thanks.
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∂26-Feb-82  0902	WIENEKE at SRI-KL 	MSing Bass tune.
Date: 26 Feb 1982 0859-PST
From: WIENEKE at SRI-KL
Subject: MSing Bass tune.
To: lcs at SU-AI

Hi.  I am at a point in my final project where I need to decide whether or
not to MS the thing.  The paging and parts are important factors in this.
Particularly, I need to know if, in order to use the parts extractor, I
would need to use a full score all the time.  Of course, I could go in and
change the score by hand once I had the parts, but I may be on a tight
schedule for a performance, so I need to know about this sort of thing.  Also,
if you know of any similar caveats, I'd be interested.  Thanks much.
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∂06-Feb-82  1213	TVR  	MS in SUN
John suggested that we should get together to talk about what is need as far
as hardware, and also software support.  Apparently, we may be able to get a
FORTRAN compiler for the 68000, but i understand there is some assembly code
involved, particularly for display output.   We also have a wide Varian-type
plotter in the new budget, but i don't right now know the target date.

∂04-Feb-82  2013	Alan Kotok <KOTOK at DEC-MARLBORO> 
Date: 4 Feb 1982 2310-EST
From: Alan Kotok <KOTOK at DEC-MARLBORO>
To: LCS at SU-AI
Reply-to: Kotok at KL1031
DTN: 231-7381
Mail-stop: MR1-2/E47
Message-ID: <"MS5(2045)+GLXLIB1(1056)" 11797836336.37.245.6183 at DEC-MARLBORO>
Regarding: Message from Leland Smith <LCS at SU-AI>
              of 29-Jan-82 1620-EST

We have not produced any more copies of the thesis, due to the pain
involved, and general laziness here.  We are quite embarrassed about this
state of affairs.  There seems to be several alternatives to the
Stanford Library acquiring a copy of the thesis at this time:
1) They could order it from University Microfilm.
2) We could generate a second generation copy.
3) They could copy your copy.
4) We could run another original on the Diablo, and re-reduce the music.
Let me know which you would prefer.

The state of graphics systems, and their availability is another
embarrassing subject.  I had hopes of prying loose a GT-40 system for
you.  Unfortunately those ancient things are the only graphics systems
we have in house for running SUDS on, and we have a severe shortage of
graphics terminals for that purpose.  DEC has been remiss in either
developing any reasonable alternative, or buying any outside so we
can replace the GT40s.  There is now a new product in development which should
do the trrick, but it is still a ways away.  I feel that if I could
identify a piece of hardware which would do you some good, and was not
a critical resource internally that I could get DEC to donate it, but
it doesn't look too hopeful at this time.  I wish I could be of more
help.

Have you investigated whether any of the new Stanford-designed graphics
terminals will be available?  Is a DEC GIGI of any use?

I really feel bad that I have let you down here.  If you have any other
suggestions, please let me know.
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∂15-Jan-82  1543	Susan Hill <CSD.HILL at SU-SCORE> 	SAIL accounts  
Date: 15 Jan 1982 1526-PST
From: Susan Hill <CSD.HILL at SU-SCORE>
Subject: SAIL accounts
To: LCS at SU-AI
cc: csd.bscott at SU-SCORE, csd.hill at SU-SCORE, admin.reg at SU-SCORE

It was our understanding that Computer Science would not support the computer
usage of the Music people after August 1981.  I don't remember why there was
no discussion of this matter in August, but I guess better late than never.
CS is currently spending $522.36 per month to support the following people
and file:

Berger, John
Files, Music
LeBrun, Marc
McNabb, Mike
Schottstaedt, Bill
Shen, Yung
Smith, Leland
Toribara, Lynne

Do you currently have funding to which this expense can be transferred?  If so,
please give me the account number.

Is Bill Gosper associated with you?

Susan Hill
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∂13-Jan-82  1532	Jim Celoni S.J. <CSL.JLH.Celoni at SU-SCORE> 	[BEC.SHAPIN at USC-ECL: Help on printing music scores]
Date: 13 Jan 1982 1530-PST
From: Jim Celoni S.J. <CSL.JLH.Celoni at SU-SCORE>
Subject: [BEC.SHAPIN at USC-ECL: Help on printing music scores]
To: lcs at SU-AI

In case this didn't make the Sail BBoard or your mailbox, here it
is--I thought you'd be amused...  --Jim
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Mail-from: ARPANET site USC-ECL rcvd at 13-Jan-82 1301-PST
Date: 13 Jan 1982 1257-PST
From: BEC.SHAPIN at USC-ECL
Personal-name: Ted Shapin
Phone: (714)970-3393; Mail X-11
Addr: Beckman Instruments 2400 Harbor, Fullerton, CA 92634
Subject: Help on printing music scores
To: bboard at SU-SCORE, bboard at MIT-XX, bboard at SU-AI
cc: BEC.SHAPIN at USC-ECL

 1. I would like to print music scores using a Z80 and my Epson
printer.  Can anyone tell me of anything like this being done?

2. Is anyone using TEX to set music scores?
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∂01-Jan-82  0136	MRC  	MS  
Hi.  Do you think you could spare a few minutes sometime to show my wife how
to use MS?  Also, she is interested in computer music and I'm wondering if
there is anything she could do at CCRMA?

∂25-Dec-81  1733	Lowell Wood <LLW at S1-A> 	WAITS FORTRAN Info Request       
Date: 25 Dec 1981 1734-PST
From: Lowell Wood <LLW at S1-A>
Subject: WAITS FORTRAN Info Request   
To:   lcs at SU-AI
CC:   LLW at S1-A, JBR at S1-A   


Dear Professor Smith:

Jeff Rubin suggested that I contact you in my search for documentation on
WAITS FORTRAN--what it is, how it's used, etc.  Marty Frost's suggestions
in response to a similar request resulted only in my finding decade-old,
rather irrelevant stuff in F40.DOC[F40,SYS], and I thus hope that there is
more germane and timely material elsewhere that you might be sufficiently
kind to point me to.

Thanks in advance,

Lowell Wood
[ LLW % S1-A ]

∂10-Dec-81  1217	100  : trg	f4  
do you know where the help file for fortran (or some other
documentation is kept on this system? I did not find anything,
but the compile commands do recognize .f4 . ME pointed me to
you as a knowledgebale user. 

thanks you.

thomas gross


∂07-Sep-81  0726	ARK  	Prancing Pony Bill 

Your account is rather overdue.  As of 2 Sept., you owe $9.88.  Your last
payment was recorded before April.  Your credit limit has been lowered.
Please write a check payable to Stanford University and send it to Fran
Larson, Computer Science Dept. today.  Thank you.

Arthur Keller
Financial Manager
Prancing Pony


∂18-Aug-81  1947	AK   via DEC-MARLBORO 	Judie's thesis copy   
I just got around to logging in on your machine, and found your
message.  I understand you will be departing soon.  Assuming Judie
is agreeable, who do we send it to, and how would we get reimbursed?

Also, you have a higher probability of reaching me these days by
sending mail to "KOTOK@DEC-MARLBORO", since I have little occasion
to use your machine.

Thanks.


∂03-Jul-81  1906	AK   via DEC-MARLBORO 	Madrigals received    
Your package arrived in good order.  Progress toward final production
of thesis is being made.

Have you considered copying all the music files to a tape, and storing
it in your archives?  If that is practical, and you need a tape, I'd
be happy to send you one.

∂01-Jul-81  2352	LYN  	the shadow... 
Is it possible to have mini-X notes??  Looks like P4 +100 gets you minis,
and P4 +300 gets you X's, but I can't figure out a way to get both at the
same time.


∂23-Jun-81  1556	john at LBL-UNIX (& Mccarthy [csam]) 	MS SCORE System  
Date: 23 Jun 1981 09:34:35-PDT
From: john at LBL-UNIX (& Mccarthy [csam])
To: lcs at sail
Subject: MS SCORE System
Cc: merrill at LBL-UNIX

I enjoyed talking to you this morning. As I mentioned, I sing with a men's
Slavic Chorus called Slavyanka based in San Francisco, and we are looking into
ways to use computers in producing and editing our music. Your system sounds
like a very good possibility, so I would like to find out what specific
formats it uses for input. Even if we proceed temporarily on some other course,
I would like to do it in a way that would at least be compatible for your
system. As you will probably note from the header of this message,
my arpanet address here at LBL is john@lbl-unix. Hope it gets through
to you OK.

With best regards,
	John L. McCarthy

∂21-Jun-81  2036	HYS  	minor bug in score input mode
"SFZ" in score input mode produces only "SF"; I had to change manually P5
to 92 to get that "Z" in.  I think "SFZ" used to work a long time ago, since
I tend to use "SFZ" somewhat more often than "SF" (looks more emphatic).